"The audio visual department is Jehovah's printing press for the 21st century." -quote from a bethelite that works in the audio/visual department. He made it seem like a higher up told him this.
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Printing Company to Video Production Company - Insider Information
by thedepressedsoul inmany people think that wt is a publishing company and at one time that was true.
however, they are slowly fading that out into more digital publications.
we all have come to the conclusion that printed material from the wt is going way of the dinosaur.
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Watchtower Society: something terribly going on - scenarios
by Gorbatchov inif an (aggressive) real estate fund is stopping it's operations directly,.
and if an publishing house is minimize the portfolio,.
and if a member of it's board of directors is telling the costs are higher then the profits,.
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If I had to pick one I'd say number 3. I think Warwick/ other building projects have gone way over budget, they can't go on with the status quo, incoming donations, return on investments etc. isn't what it once was. They need to liquidate their Brooklyn properties to remain long term financial health. I don't think it's quite as serious as some hoped, if they can navigate this next year or two, I think they'll be ok. I don't think they'll ever be what they once were though. I would love to know what their numbers are in the states for English speaking congregations. I honestly think they are bleeding members from that group and its hurting them financially. -
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Does Anyone Still Believe in God?
by LaurenM indo any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
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Another ruse?
by Pistoff incould the stopping of construction be just another ruse to squeeze money from the rank and file?.
it will certainly generate buzz like nothing else..
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It doesn't feel like a ruse for more money, but I wouldn't put it past them to do something like that. They go full tv evangelist style, saying god told them to stop construction, cause he needs more money!!
It just reminded me actually, didn't they say a few yeas ago, I think it was guy pierce, they weren't sure it they had "Jehovah's direction/spirit" or something like that when going ahead and starting with Warwick?
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A simple explanation for the financial changes
by JeffT inas i've mentioned from time to time, i'm a retired accountant.
i have tried many times to come up with some logical, sound business reason why the wtbs has made the big changes in its financial arrangements: taking the congregations savings, the monthly donations per congregation etc.
i finally came up with the answer.. the leadership of the watchtower society is batshit crazy.
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You're probably right. I like to think of them as a business, sometimes it helps to understand why they do what they do. At the end of the day though, they are an end times cult who believe god is directing their organization. Or in simpler terms...they are straight up bat-shit crazy. -
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Latest rumor - all WT construction "suspended", except for Warwick
by sir82 inheard 4th-hand, but from a full-on believer, so not likely to be an "apostate lie":.
apparently, at bethel's morning worship this morning, it was announced that all worldwide wts construction is "suspended" for an indefinite time, except for the new world headquarters at warwick.. also, the "relocation" of remote translating teams is also suspended.. finally, there will be a "worldwide" reduction in bethel personnel.. all this came to me in a non-english language, and,as noted, 4th-hand.
so it is possible something may have been lost in translation and/or in the multiple steps between bethel morning worship & me.. but if true, it would be quite stunning.
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Sir82- my guess would be Warwick has gone way over budget..the free labor they bring in isn't getting the job done, they're having to pay for outside help. Possibly the ARC has them spooked. -
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Latest rumor - all WT construction "suspended", except for Warwick
by sir82 inheard 4th-hand, but from a full-on believer, so not likely to be an "apostate lie":.
apparently, at bethel's morning worship this morning, it was announced that all worldwide wts construction is "suspended" for an indefinite time, except for the new world headquarters at warwick.. also, the "relocation" of remote translating teams is also suspended.. finally, there will be a "worldwide" reduction in bethel personnel.. all this came to me in a non-english language, and,as noted, 4th-hand.
so it is possible something may have been lost in translation and/or in the multiple steps between bethel morning worship & me.. but if true, it would be quite stunning.
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If you roll back the timeline this past year it's pretty clear what happened.
The bean counters at corporate HQ saw they were facing a financial issue, solution..raid the cong bank accounts and have every cong send a set amount every month. This gives you a cash injection and now you have a pretty good idea what your monthly income will be. Spin this as a streamlined arrangement and a "forgiving" of loans.
The problem wasn't fixed by doing that though. The bean counters saw what they collected and found out, nope, still not enough! Solution-the may broadcast. Lett begs for more money. That was their last ditch Hail Mary chance to salvage all their construction projects. It didn't work.
the final, and only choice left was what was leaked today..layoffs and suspending all but the Warwick project. i think they're in major financial trouble, long-term.
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THE BART EHRMAN debate is available now
by Terry ingo to the live streaming site and sign up or sign in:.
http://livestream.com/accounts/12497542/events/4350731.
skip to 9:02 and the debate begins.. _______________.
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What is the most strange action of a witness while out in field service?
by adjusted knowledge ini was paired with this older "brother" when i was a teenager.
he was very very strange.
he was a nice guy but goofy.
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I remember being out in rural territory all day with an elder, his wife and a pioneer sister a few years older than me, I was about 15. Well at the end of the hot summer day the elder announces, "geez a cold beer sure sounds good about now!" We were working a town about an hour away from home so he stops by a gas station picks up a 12 pack of beer, gets behind the wheel, cracks one open and hands them over to his wife to pass out to us! Best drive home from service ever! By the time we got home we had polished off the 12 pack. Nothing like that ever happened again and none of us talked to anyone about it. If service could be like that maybe I'd consider going out again... -
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I'm not so sure a bigger awakening is going to happen anymore
by bradford inwhen i left in march officially i started reading the forums here.
i had this excitement that more people would be leaving soon because of the crazy broadcasts, the crazy "new light" that the gb was dishing out, and more recently the australian royal commission lighting up geoffrey.
this past saturday i had an elder stop by to chat for the first time since i left.
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I don't see a mass awakening in the cards. Like a few other posters said..apathy is what will get them. The organization has ways to combat this, not as many brothers reaching out? More videos and talks beamed in from HQ for meeting parts. Lower the requirements for "special" service, drop the pioneer hours. Child baptism, make them captive before they know what's going on. In the end though they can't win..it's just going to be a long slow decline for them. I don't have a ton of hope that people my age (mid 30's) and older will wake up, my hope is for the children today. Most of the people having kids today take the religion about half as serious as their parents, hopefully their kids continue that trend.